Round 8 v Fremantle: Looking back, thinking ahead

As a teenager, I spent plenty of winter Saturday afternoons at Vermont Reserve, watching the Eagles kick goal after goal and notch win after win.

The common thread through it all, which even 13 to 16-year-old me could understand as he had the time of his life watching Matt Greig pick which defender’s shoulders he wanted to jump on, was how Vermont were several classes above most teams they played. It was barely a fair contest.

And when the day was done, the usual post-match kick to kick finished, I’d grab my bike and wheel it past the clubrooms, ready to hop on and ride home. Without fail, there’d be one or two guys from the opposition contingent – usually fans, but occasionally players – lingering while talking on the phone.

Conversations to the other end of the line usually followed a similar script:

‘We lost by <insert large margin>’
‘We kicked <insert number less than eight> goals’
‘We had <insert number less than five> good players’

I always wondered what these hopelessly outmatched teams could possibly gain from playing against a juggernaut like Vermont, and how defeated they probably felt before the game even started.

But at club level you’re conditioned to expect these types of mismatches more often than not, given the difference in resources and consistency of quality. It makes things a touch easier to rationalise, and deal with the consequences from a motivation point of view.

Watching North Melbourne struggle through another heavy loss on Friday night, those times kept flashing into my mind and I thought…

What happens when the same wild disparities present at AFL level?


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Once upon a time, when things were slightly better for North on the win-loss ledger, a main theme on here used to be how important it was to see rewards for work put in.

Words are great to try and reinforce patterns and behaviours, and they have the desired effect sometimes. Ultimately, they can only go so far.

At some point, without tangible evidence of at least the slightest progress, things will splinter. There’s a famous quote which I learned from the San Antonio Spurs, but others may know from elsewhere. It’s called ‘The Stonecutter’s Credo’, by Jacob Riis:

“When nothing seems to help, I go and look at a stonecutter hammering away at his rock perhaps a hundred times without as much as a crack showing in it. Yet at the hundred and first blow it will split in two, and I know it was not that blow that did it, but all that had gone before.”

The meaning is clear: put in the work, results will eventually come. When it comes to North though, the current feeling is being 500 blows in, looking at the rock, seeing it’s still getting bigger and past the size of Everest.

My worry is how to keep players believing during this stretch, coming up against teams on a different level week after week. The average losing margin over the last six weeks has been 62.5 points, and that’s including the close one against Sydney.

There are still three more weeks to go in this murderers row before the draw begins to open up. So far in this stretch North is conceding nearly 120 points per game, not too far off expansion levels of leakiness.

It’s easy to claim players have no excuse for a dip in their output; ‘they’re highly paid’, ‘they’re doing something I’d kill to do’, ‘they should focus on football more’, and all those sorts of base level arguments which are the domain of the ignorant.

It all ignores basic human function. If you keep getting beaten down, few have the capability to make it through and the potential of many more is wasted.


For those who have missed any posts/podcast appearances over the last week or so, here are links to catch up with:

Friday 6th: What To Watch For: Round 8
Wednesday 4th: North Talk podcast
Tuesday 3rd: Hashtag Kangas podcast
Monday 2nd: From The Notebook: Round 7
Sunday 1st: North’s Round 7 Review


Friday night was not rock bottom for North, instead more a confirmation of current standing.

Much like those Saturday afternoons at Vermont, they were the outmatched opponent clutching at any small positive while dealing with a rampaging home side.

Luckily Fremantle’s offence isn’t on the same level as their defence and North had Ben McKay for two and a half quarters, otherwise the scoreboard would have looked much worse than the 78-point difference it ended on. 67 inside 50s to 32 tell the real story.

Once the Dockers had the clamps on to stop North moving out of their back half, it was easy to spot heads dropping.

To return to amateur psychology 101, the fear of failure clearly inhibited North. It was like the walls were slowly closing in, only those walls were actually purple jumpers.

As a consequence the ball use became panicked, movement slowed, and they were sitting ducks for such a well drilled outfit.

Positives were few and far between, but the conclusion to take away in these times should be this:

As blunt as it sounds, there are obviously placeholders in North’s current outfit.

While in the current doldrums, what’s most vital for North’s future is making sure the long-termers are correctly nurtured and protected.

There has to be consistency in roles, consistency in responsibilities and clarity in what’s expected.

While some will be success stories regardless of what’s thrown at them – for instance Jason Horne-Francis is a joy to watch and I hope his current want and will never diminishes – not everyone has the same personality type.

The last thing North want to do is waste their scorched earth approach by turning into early 2010’s Melbourne and failing to develop the next generation, eventually being forced to start again without anything to show for it.


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2 thoughts on “Round 8 v Fremantle: Looking back, thinking ahead

  1. Before I read this, Rick, I posted the following on the Mongrel Punt’s website review of last night’s game. Thank you for the Stonecutter’s Credo, I just put it on our study wall, and for your boundless and insightful optimism:

    “Are you mad? North will get a win? I’m a North supporter. At work in break times I sit with a coffee and check out nmfc twitter, Mongrel Punt, The Roar, The Shinboner and the main footy commentariat sites. We are not good and few have grabbed on to what David Noble’s asking of them. It’s horrible. I try to be objective, realising that in our first seven games we played four games against top eight teams and three against those not; likewise that in our final fifteen games we would play nine games against non top eight teams and only six against the best as the ladder currently stands. However, this is small beer. We are simply not well organised. I suspect that the 6-6-6 rule has made a crud situation for teams bottoming out in this era. There is so much exaggeration of team prowess, too. If last year’s Grand Final had been played under the old rule instead of the 6-6-6 rule, would Melbourne truly have had a 93 point turnaround? Paul Roos and Ross Lyon led teams would have clamped down to restrict the thrashing to something like 30 to 50 points. What’s my point? As dreary as it sounds, if David Noble could teach a clog up the ground and restrict play style to his incredibly young and (covid-affected) inexperienced charges we might only be losing by 20 to 40 points. Something that would be a step in the right direction until experience and game plan understanding catches up. Until last night I was firmly opposed to the push to hire Clarkson. You be the judge of how I feel now. Enough; end the pain for Kanga supporters.”

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